President, ons is bang, sê kinders

20081125205628president3Uit: http://www.news24.com/Beeld/Suid-Afrika/0,,3-975_2432518,00.html, Nov 25 2008 08:57:58:483PM  – (SA), Elana Carstens
Sowat 2 400 kinders het gister op ’n rugbyveld in Suiderberg, Pretoria, saamgedrom om hulde te bring aan alle Suid-Afrikaners wat hul lewe weens misdaad verloor het.

Die kinders van die Laerskole Booysens en Saamspan en die Hoërskool Suiderberg het met wit houtkruise rondgeloop in die hoop dat die regering aandag aan hul pleidooi om veiligheid sal gee.

Die kinders vra in sowat 2 000 briewe aan pres. Kgalema Motlanthe hy moet die misdaadprobleem oplos, want hulle is te bang om snags te slaap.

“Sowat 90% van die kinders vra in die briewe die doodstraf moet teruggebring word,” het mnr. Kobus Hermitage, organiseerder en voorsitter van die Suid-Afrika Teen Misdaad-aksiegroep, gesê.

“Iets moet dringend aan die misdaad in ons land gedoen word. Ons kinders is te bang om uit hul huise te gaan.”

Tanya Engelbrecht (16) en Lavonne Benade (16), leerlinge aan die Hoër Tegniese Skool Pretoria Tuine, het die regering in toesprake daarvan beskuldig dat hulle nie die vermoë het om die misdaad in bedwang te bring nie.

“Ons het nie eens ’n polisiediens wat ons kan vertrou nie, want hulle kom weg met moord,” het Tanya gesê.

“Ons moet saamstaan om misdaad in ons pragtige land hok te slaan. Ons is vir jou Suid-Afrika, Nkosi Sikeleli ’Afrika,” het Lavonne gesê.

Talle verteenwoordigers van politieke partye was ook by die byeenkoms.

Genl. Siphiwe Nyanda, van die ANC se nasionale uitvoerende komitee, het erken daar is probleme in die polisiëringstelsel.

“Ons moet verantwoordelikheid neem vir die dade wat gepleeg is en die swak manier waarop die misdade gehanteer is.”

Mnr. Frik van Wyk van die VF+ is ontsteld oor hoe misdaad die afgelope 14 jaar gehanteer is.

“Dit het die party aan bewind 14 jaar geneem net om te erken daar is wel ’n probleem. Gaan dit hulle nog 14 jaar neem om iets daaraan te doen?”


1 Response to “President, ons is bang, sê kinders”

  1. 1 Leon Bouwer
    September 12, 2009 at 5:44 pm

    Dear Sir/madam, i am not much good at blogs so i don’t know how to publish my article here. maybe you could do it for me if you think it is relevant? I was watching Sky-News and they were on about the death toll in the Irish civil ‘war’. it struck me as rediculous compared to what is happening in SA. So i did dome research. Unfortunately this window does not accept the formatting i had for the comparison tables, so if you email me i will send you the HTML format. you can publish this with my blessings under you name or mine. it is SCARY. Skuus ek is ook Afrikaans – sien nou eers die artikels is meestal in Afrikaans, maar miskien is Engels beter om die boodskap uit te kry.

    Hi Sky News, I am an ex- South African living in London due to the crime and racism problems in SA. I find it really hard that the whole world is now simply ignoring the SA situation. I fully realise that I am probably wasting my time as the world has decided they did the correct thing forcing a corrupt revolutionary government on the people of South Africa, but who knows….

    As an eye-catcher; you report that in 30 years of WAR in Ireland 3000 people has been killed. In SA according to official government statistics, between 1 April and 30 September 2007 ( the latest figures released ) there was 8925 murders in SA – 49 per day, so in a ‘normal’ 2 month period in peaceful South Africa more people die than has died in 30 years of WAR in Ireland.

    http://www.saps.gov.za/statistics/reports/crimestats/2007/april_sept2007/crime_report20062007.pdf and http://www.saps.gov.za/statistics/reports/crimestats/2007/april_sept2007/catagory/murder.pdf . Interesting to note that these dates do not include the December ( Holiday season ) and Easter periods as these periods are notorious in SA for the number of murders taking place then.

    Here is the Table of comparison as extracted from that report :


    Period April to September


    Average Daily Murders in SA

    AND those stats are cooked; they are regularly released, withdrawn, and change more regularly than I change underwear. According to the ‘stats’ these figures are coming down but when I lived there you could see it happening and realise it is getting worse by the day.

    But let’s stick to the official numbers and do more comparisons;

    Time period
    Death toll
    Comparitive SA Murder toll

    Last 30 years
    30 years

    Israel Lebanon
    July 2006
    34 days

    Israel Gaza
    December 2008
    17 Days

    March 2003 – current
    6 years

    October 2001to current
    8 years

    1959 – 1975
    16 years

    Sri Lankan Civil War
    July1983 to present
    25.5 years

    Ireland last 30 years

    If we multiply the SA ‘peace’ murder number by 30 years it is a stupid number : 535 500…. So let’s do this one as above the other way around, in 2 months in SA more people dies than in 30 years of war in Ireland. ( tongue-in cheek – maybe the Irish need to learn to fight?? – sorry! Could not help that!!! )

    Israel Lebanon war in July 2006

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Israel-Lebanon_conflict in this conflict ‘over 1000’ people were killed in a 34 day period – in 34 days in 2006 according to the above official SA stats 1763 South Africans were murdered – in peace time.

    Israel invasion of Gaza Dec 2008

    http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLF572446 1434 people killed in 17 days of all-out war. In peaceful SA in the same 17 day period 831 people were murdered ( using latest numbers from 2007 ) – for once a lower score than all-out war.

    Iraq war : march 2003 and ongoing

    91,059 – 99,431 violent civilian deaths as a result of the conflict between March 2003 and February 2009 according to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War so comparing to SA, in peace time, over the same length of time (72 months) 107 570 innocent South Africans will be murdered. – I used 2007 numbers for 2008.

    Afghanistan War October 2001.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_in_Afghanistan_(2001%E2%80%93present)#Civilian_casualties there seems to be no accurate figures, estimates of deaths caused directly by armed conflict from 2001 to the end of 2008 range from 7,760 to 18,000. Over the same period of 7 years 152062 innocent South Africans were murdered – I used 2007 numbers for 2008

    Vietnam War War 1959 – 1975 – here we look at comparing the period – not the actual time.

    58000 Americans died, but I could not find numbers for Civilian casualties, but unless it was around 200 000, then SA ‘wins’ again with 285 600 murders over a 16 year period – using 2007 statistics only.

    The Sri Lankan Civil War – since 23 July 1983

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_Lankan_Civil_War death toll 70 000 – in SA that would be 455 175 over 25 years.

    I cannot find any numbers showing the death toll during the Anti-Apartheid war, but from memory it was the odd person here and there, so it would be great if you could find that figure of comparison, the bottom line is South Africa during its peaceful ‘democracy’ is a much more dangerous place than it was while in a state of Civil War..

    So comparing the understated official murder toll in South Africa – while it is at peace – with the casualty figures of 7 recent full out wars – only the 2008 Invasion of Gaza by Israel had a lower death tool than comparing SA’s murder over the same length of time period. And the world is proposing to send their highly valuable soccer players there for a World Cup. Madness.

    And remember although I am white – I am complaining on behalf of all South Africans – Blacks are probably in excess of 75% of the SA population and they suffer more than whites from these murders so the bulk of those numbers are Black South Africans.

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